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Old 31-08-2008, 15:45
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#056 - C8 Double 12S - Silver-Red - In China

I posted the first 2 pics a while ago in the "Spykers in China" thread.

Took me a while to realise that it was the same as the one on display at the 2007 Shanghai Motor Show.

And I'm guessing it is the Spyker C12 Spyder, with a Roof on it (and with new model tags on the side of course; and without the funny leather "domes" behind the roll-bars+headrests).

Same exterior colour, same interior colour and no rivets on the bodywork

AX_Lover, what do you think??

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Old 31-08-2008, 15:50
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Are these the only 4 existing pics of the C12 Spyder? I've done a quick search, and these are the only ones popping up. Press pictures, no doubt.

If we had more pics of it (especially interior), we could make a beter comparison

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Old 02-09-2008, 23:09
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AX Lover: what you do think about this perhaps being the C12 Spyder??

Some more pics :-) Hope you like 'm!

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Old 02-09-2008, 23:15
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And some more, being unloaded for a car show.





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Old 03-09-2008, 10:58
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And some more, being unloaded for a car show.





At Spyker they entrusted us only to reverse up a ramp to keep you from getting stuck with the front (lip) of the car.
You can see them fiddeling with wooden planks.
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Old 28-09-2008, 17:36
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I found a picture of the interior of the C12 Spyder, I added the picture of the C8 Double 12S (earlier posted in post #3 of this thread by bucciali) for comparison:
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Left: interior C12 Spyder
Right: interior C8 Double 12S in China

The only differences seem to be that the C8 Double 12S has an airconditioning system and the C12 Spyder does not and that the C12 Spyder has three pedals and the Double 12S has only two.
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Old 08-10-2008, 21:32
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#056 Spyker C8 Double 12S

I think bucciali's theory is correct:

If we compare the C12 Spyder with this particular Double 12 than two similarities appear: As bucciali said earlier, the exterior as well as the interior color are exactly the same and both have no visible rivets on the bodywork. The absence of these rivets was a novelty on the C12 Spyder.

There are also two striking differences: The C12 has a 12 cilinder engine where as the Double 12 has an 8 cilinder engine. And the C12 is a Spyder opposed to the Double 12 being a Laviolette.

Lets start with the engine: At the 2004 Millionair Fair, the only time the C12 was publicly shown, the W12 engine was displayed at a separate statue and not in the car itself. The reason for this, I believe, is that it was most likely an engine-less prototype. It might seem strange to show a prototype without an engine but in fact this is very common. Later prototypes, such as the La Turbie, the Zagato and the Aileron were also engine-less. With the chassis and bodywork of the C12 being the same as that of a Double 12, its not that hard to fit in a Double 12 engine.

As far as the roof is concerned: The construction of the roof is similar to that used on the Double 12SC with VIN #040, which was also originally a Spyder which was later converted into a Laviolette. The roof itself however, is different: It does not have the glasspanels, as can be seen in the fourth picture. This is very uncommon, as far as I know there is only one other Double 12 without these glasspanels in the roof.

Normally, the roof of the Double 12 is constructed out of two pieces (on this picture the rear-window-section has not been installed yet):

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Note that the polished metal roofline is interrupted:

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But the roof of this particular Double 12 consists of one piece. Note that the polished metal roofline is not interrupted:

#056 Double 12_roofline_p.jpg

As Spyker 007 stated earlier, this special roof, although hardtop is probably a better word indeed, locks on the A-pillars. In the left picture you can clearly see that the roof and the A-pillar are locked with the handle on top of the A-pillar. It can most likely be removed to use this Double 12 as a Spyder. For comparison: In the right picture you can see the roof construction of a normal Double 12.

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We have sold 40 or so road cars so far, in addition to the other race cars we built in previous years, and of course development prototypes (chassis 055 and 056 are in build as the prototype 12 cylinder road cars). This is a very serious commercial enterprise, not just for road cars but for race cars too. Everyone is dying for an alternative to emerge for the Porsche 911 and we hope to be able to provide it."

The only two 12 cilinder prototypes at that time were the C12 Spyder and the C12 La Turbie.
The fact that VIN #055 was allocated to the La Turbie, indicates that the C12 Spyder, and therefore also this Double 12S that derived from it, has VIN #056.
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Old 02-09-2008, 23:20
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:37
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Really don't know if this is the C12 Spyder that is transformed into a C8 Double12 S (coupe). It could well be. But we should have to study the pictures closer.
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