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Old 08-10-2008, 21:32
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#056 Spyker C8 Double 12S

I think bucciali's theory is correct:

If we compare the C12 Spyder with this particular Double 12 than two similarities appear: As bucciali said earlier, the exterior as well as the interior color are exactly the same and both have no visible rivets on the bodywork. The absence of these rivets was a novelty on the C12 Spyder.

There are also two striking differences: The C12 has a 12 cilinder engine where as the Double 12 has an 8 cilinder engine. And the C12 is a Spyder opposed to the Double 12 being a Laviolette.

Lets start with the engine: At the 2004 Millionair Fair, the only time the C12 was publicly shown, the W12 engine was displayed at a separate statue and not in the car itself. The reason for this, I believe, is that it was most likely an engine-less prototype. It might seem strange to show a prototype without an engine but in fact this is very common. Later prototypes, such as the La Turbie, the Zagato and the Aileron were also engine-less. With the chassis and bodywork of the C12 being the same as that of a Double 12, its not that hard to fit in a Double 12 engine.

As far as the roof is concerned: The construction of the roof is similar to that used on the Double 12SC with VIN #040, which was also originally a Spyder which was later converted into a Laviolette. The roof itself however, is different: It does not have the glasspanels, as can be seen in the fourth picture. This is very uncommon, as far as I know there is only one other Double 12 without these glasspanels in the roof.

Normally, the roof of the Double 12 is constructed out of two pieces (on this picture the rear-window-section has not been installed yet):

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Note that the polished metal roofline is interrupted:

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But the roof of this particular Double 12 consists of one piece. Note that the polished metal roofline is not interrupted:

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As Spyker 007 stated earlier, this special roof, although hardtop is probably a better word indeed, locks on the A-pillars. In the left picture you can clearly see that the roof and the A-pillar are locked with the handle on top of the A-pillar. It can most likely be removed to use this Double 12 as a Spyder. For comparison: In the right picture you can see the roof construction of a normal Double 12.

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We have sold 40 or so road cars so far, in addition to the other race cars we built in previous years, and of course development prototypes (chassis 055 and 056 are in build as the prototype 12 cylinder road cars). This is a very serious commercial enterprise, not just for road cars but for race cars too. Everyone is dying for an alternative to emerge for the Porsche 911 and we hope to be able to provide it."

The only two 12 cilinder prototypes at that time were the C12 Spyder and the C12 La Turbie.
The fact that VIN #055 was allocated to the La Turbie, indicates that the C12 Spyder, and therefore also this Double 12S that derived from it, has VIN #056.
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Old 09-10-2008, 21:38
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Very interesting investigation Laviolette GT2R.

The one piece roof and the locks at the top of the A-pillar clearly indicate that this must be a Spyder with a hardtop.
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Old 14-10-2008, 23:11
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Finally more pictures of the Spyker C12 Spyder at the 2004 Amsterdam Millionair

Nice elaborative write-up on the theory I suggested, Stephan! Thanks for documenting it so well ;-)

I could not understand why there are so few pictures of the C12 Spyder on the Web; tons of digital pics must have been made in 2004 at the Millionair Fair.
So I did some Googling and found :: DREAMS ON WHEELS. These guys had started a good automotive site back in the days, full with reports and photos. They visited the Fair and had a small article about the Spyker stand, YES. But unfortunately also with small pics.

I decided to contact them and Carlo, one of the owners, very generously took the time to browse his archive and look for the original high-resolution pictures, which he finally found and sent to me to publish on Spykerowner.com.
So, a big thanks (!) to Carlo for sharing this with us. And without further adue, here are the pics. A few of almost the same angle, but hey, I'm sharing for the next generation



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Old 09-12-2008, 00:35
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C8 Double 12 S in Chinese showroom

#056 in some Chinese showroom. Dealer name seems to be Longbo, but cannot find anything under that name.

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Old 25-02-2009, 23:14
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Still on display....with Longbo plates on.

Only reference on Longbo I could find so far was something with a Hummer dealership?? I'm thinking it could be a luxury car dealer perhaps, that has bought the Spyker and is trying to sell it.

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Old 22-03-2009, 22:40
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Some more pics of the above shown display.
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Old 24-03-2010, 22:34
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searching for some new Double12 pictures I found these...pretty sure this is #056;
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Old 24-03-2010, 22:44
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After taking a second look..the last picture must be a different car (unlike #056 this car has sidemarkers and a Karmann body) .
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If we are sure #056 is this double 12s, we should change the name of the link to this thread in the register
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